As anyone who has played against multiple opponents knows, the commanders your opponents choose can either be highly indicative or highly misleading. You can now import it in the MTG Arena client. $0.29. Certain commanders, like Jace, Teferi, and Zur, can be strong pointers that your opponents are trying to win. Big thanks to TooManyCardGames for hosting this deck tech.). Unfortunately, this seems to be true of practically any deck one could play, so I’ll just be moving on. Also, I’ve found manifold insights surprisingly decent in combo-control lists. Oath of the Gatewatch. This is a constant in all formats in which storm is viable, which is most of them. by MagicalHacker. The deck has two stances: aggressivly play for the combo turn, or be the control player. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. r/LabManiacs - cEDH Podcast Group /r/EDH /r/TinyLeaders ... Jori En does offer different lines to play with. Okay, look, I know this sounds bad. Ban List - Multiplayer. Terms of Use | The majority of the time, this is a lightning bolt once per turn, which is just not enough. 10:35. View All Versions. That said, they don’t directly contribute card advantage, and being mono blue removes Past in Flames and Yawgmoth’s Will as options, cutting some resilience from the storm plan. In a more competitive meta, Teferi plays the role of fun police and performs similarly to your Jori En list, but in a less competitive meta Teferi becomes archenemy. EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander. I still think metamorphose is worse than chain of vapor, especially as a storm deck which can bounce mana positive rocks for profit. To be honest, the control part on its own is not an easy task. But none of them have taken the form of an aggro deck! Let’s take a look at such a deck. EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander. I really liked your “reading the table” section. 1/22/2016: Jori En must be on the battlefield in order for the ability to function. Clear. I’m the same guy from the Grenzo thing. Playtest v1. Take the information you have, but don’t make hard assumptions. EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander ... Jori En, Ruin Diver (Commander) Jori En, Ruin Diver. Similar Deck Space Auto-suggestions. As such, we want a low land count. My weapon of choice: Jori En, Ruin Diver. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Magic the Gathering, FNM is TM and copyright Wizards of the Coast, Inc, a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc. All rights reserved. Storm is not something everyone enjoys playing against, and for some people, the mere fact that it is your win condition will be enough for them to hate you and everything you represent. Ending the game suddenly, especially if most of what the other players expect from a game hasn’t happened yet, will likely not make you many friends. A multiplayer commander game on MTGO featuring: Trostani Selesnya's Voice vs Jori En Ruin Diver, Edgar Markov & Sek'Kuar Deathkeeper. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Jori En – A Primer: A Self-Conscious EDH Storm. This will require TappedOut.js included in your blog. If you’re winning turns 3-5, and most of the early turns are land-go, you’ve just dominated the total time taken by all players with a five minute turn in a ten minute game. Jori En, Ruin Diver / 遺跡潜り、ジョリー・エン (1)(青)(赤) 伝説のクリーチャー — マーフォーク(Merfolk) ウィザード(Wizard) あなたが各ターンのあなたの2つ目の呪文を唱えるたび、カードを1枚引く。 Contact | When the Dominaria Pre-Release is Lit (4/21/18 Magic the Gathering 2HG Pre-Release Summary), 4/7/18 Philadelphia Regional 15th Place True Draco Yugioh Deck Profile and Tournament Report, Maintaining a three-color manabase in an archetype reliant on. I'm looking for both general advice, like if I should be adding stax pieces even though Jori En doesn't benefit from them, or if I should choose different wincons, as well as … Jori En, Ruin Diver: An attempt to build a storm deck that can play nice with others.Though I'm pushing this to have streamlined and consistent win conditions, at a slower table, this deck does not by any means need to feel oppressive. Play fast. The Commander’s Quarters is your source for everything budget Commander! I’d argue for Jace, Vryn’s Prodigy as a better commander for this type of archetype. By the same token, if someone asks you what you’re doing, don’t lie. Jori En, Ruin Diver Without a doubt the low profile girl and my current main choice as Commander of this Izzet mad experiment, making the whole primer focus on her point of view. As mentioned above, this isn’t always true, but it’s something to consider. Primer Cantrips allow Jori En to consistently build card advantage cheaply or velocity when looking for a combo, while deeper digging spells search for either answers or fuel for the storm turn. She easily comes out early on a pretty reasonable body, hurts nobody directly and nets you a ton of cards. If all else fails, the cards don’t lie. May 1, 2020 by Community Spotlight . It’s even okay to lose if you could have won. Privacy statement | You do lose your Past in Flames turns, but you get mana dorks and enchantment removal, which is cool. Everyone’s here to have a good time, and it’s in everyone’s interest that players be on the same page. Card Kingdom 2579.67 - 2974.59 . Centred very much on "Instants/Sorceries matter" logic, the deck spends the early game just trying to do little things here and there whilst constantly triggering Jori's ability. Export to Archidekt. Click the add button on any card to start building your decklist. I’m here to present another option: play storm in a combo-control shell. I’m going to break down most of the deck into several categories. Attention! This card makes achieving lethal storm far easier than cards with the actual storm mechanic. Mizzix of the Izmagnus, and to a lesser extent Melek, Izzet Paragon and Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, can be powerful commanders, with abilities that contribute directly towards the storm turn. Having Helm of Awakening, Future Sight, and Sensei’s Divining Top in play will allow you to repeatedly activate top and recast it for free, effectively drawing your deck and building a massive storm count. Playing Commander to Win - a Primer. I am a big izzet fan and have had several UR EDH decks across the past few years. The high density of cantrips and the engine Jori En provides somewhat compensates for this. New (and older) commanders and other decks got more focus due to the direction our playgroup was heading, which is a more midrangey way of playing. Other people can view your private deck by using this url, Seems there are no cards in the Acquireboard. I think this is a pretty good way to do that. I created a Jori En deck a while back which I have started building; the list can be found here. Jori is unassuming. Ultimately, almost every win this deck gets will be through Aetherflux Reservoir. Dizzy Spell might be a decent tutor for high tide, though it depends on how often you go for High Tide turns versus other ways to storm out. The 1 TIX Commander Challenge returns!This time, it’s my blue-red spells build for Jori En, Ruin Diver versus Corey Murphy’s (Card Knock Life) aggressive Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest.. Unfortunately, at five mana, the benefits Keranos provides are not sufficient. Jori En’s ability can trigger only once each turn. Other more marginal omissions include Ancient Tomb, Jace, Vryn’s Prodigy, and Jace, the Mind Sculptor. Dralnu, Lich Lord presents an interesting twist on Jace, but the high mana cost and harsh risk make this option unappealing. On this deck tech we brew with Jori En, Ruin Diver as our commander. Specifically: That last point is key. There is enough draw and filtering to find them when the time is right, and the majority of the list should be flexible enough to be useful both when looking to combo and when just kicking back. Baral, Chief of Compliance and Jace, Vryn’s Prodigy are both fairly viable for this archetype. Help | Finally, I think a big part of what decks are considered combo-control and which decks are fast combo is the meta they’re in. You’ll get better at the deck and mess up less eventually, but until then, don’t waste everyone’s time by trying to optimize your every move. So what can you do? This is especially true late game, when a couple other players have already tried to push their advantage. otherwise, spells go brrr For the pilot. For the archetype we are playing, a commander who is only useful when you are ready to win is not a great commander. With regards to Magic and EDH. Mizzix is incredibly dangerous to leave in play, and as a result, he dies. By the time you have the opportunity to go for it, you should have an idea whether people are playing fair or not. Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. Complete Comment Tutorial! You may notice that the cards dedicated just to the storm turn are few. I’m the same guy from the Grenzo thing. Jori En… Jori En, Ruin Diver. Honesty in your expectations for how the game will be played is the best way to get the game everyone wants. Her being a wizard though also leads me to believe that tribal wizards could work. By Force might be better than Shattering Pulse depending on the meta you play against. A community for passionate EDH players to discuss the competitive meta of the format. Mana efficient can often mean that Jori En draws more cards, and that velocity is super important. TCGplayer: $0.00. DMCA requests | Others are more ambiguous, like Breya, Jeleva, and Animar, each of which have viable competitive builds and casual fun modes. A lot. Though this does not win the game on its own, in many circumstances, it is easy to transition this into a win. TL;DR: It is possible to play storm at tables where nobody wants storm and come out not looking like a jerk. ( Log Out /  As always, there is some overlap (in fact, the more useful these cards are elsewhere, the better). Figuring out what’s going on at your table is essential to having a good game of EDH for everyone, and it’s worth going into some of the subtleties. This is intentional. These serve drastically different purposes depending upon the circumstance. Holding down an entire table is incredibly difficult. Edit Live Edit. Clipboard (0 Cards) Card Kingdom: $0.00. Thanks for reading, folks. After Bala Ged was overrun by the Eldrazi Jori En fled with her human friend Kendrin to Tazeem. Okay, so now we just need to figure out how to play control and combo with the same deck. Latest Set: Eternal. What I mean is that there are ways in which you can win that result in only you having fun, and if you’re like me, that probably means you aren’t having fun either. I think not playing Memory Jar is a mistake – especially with artifact tutors. Everything else should consistently provide two colors and arrive untapped, with the possible exceptions of Izzet Boilerworks (which works very well with untap effects) and at most one basic Mountain. Of course, I can’t guarantee that this won’t still give people the feel-bads. Unless everyone’s showing up to the table with the explicit intent to compete to the best of their ability, you have nothing to prove. Each filters your draws in some way, getting you to the card advantage needed to control the board, and each contributes to the storm plan (Baral by being a cost reducer, Jace by flashing back a critical spell, often High Tide). My current list looks something like this: 20x Islands (including shocks and fetches). This win condition, and to a lesser extent Grapeshot, is supported by two combos, both relatively well-known at this point. Oath of the Gatewatch. TappedOut.js Blog Widget. EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander. June 2, 2017 ~ TooManyCardGames (Hello. Change ), Jori En – A Primer: A Self-Conscious EDH Storm, Why Yugioh (and honestly card games) died for me in 2018. $0.29. EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander. $0.25. I’d add that I’ve found that generally asking people about their competitiveness ahead of time works well though. From the overt (Mana Crypt, ABUR duals, revealed combo pieces) to the more subtle (cards like Preordain are often overlooked by new players in favor of splashier effects), it should be possible in the first 2-3 turns to figure out roughly what people’s decks are like. Commander / EDH Maindeck 100. Let’s assume you accept that Jori En is a viable commander for a control/storm deck. Jori En, Ruin Diver. What I’ve found is that a natural storm turn can actually be more interesting to less competitive players than an easy combo. The Bloodhall Season 28 - Darien, King of Kjeldor, The Bloodhall Season 27 - Sedris, the Traitor King. UR (Izzet), The Bloodhall Season 29 - Tajic, Blade of the... This leads to the most important thing to remember. This site is unaffiliated. Imprinting Dramatic Reversal on Isochron Scepter with mana rocks gives you arbitrarily large storm, and with mana rocks producing three or more total, infinite mana. Deckcycle Deckcycle Feature Queue. Do this an hour in, after controlling the board and keeping a few other players from winning, and this doesn’t seem quite as bad. Both forms of ramp are essential to this deck. For people willing to throw money, I think you can make a decent combo-control Thrasios/Vial or Thrasios/Tymna deck, but I think it’s hard to not make the deck broken when you are BUG/x. An Izzet X Spell Commander Deck. Keranos, God of Storms provides some of the same goodness as Jori, by either drawing a card or controlling the board each turn. In a four-player game, the only real types of controlling interaction that scale well are stax and board wipes. Both of these scale… poorly. $0.25. It’s okay to lose. Big thanks to TooManyCardGames for hosting this deck tech.) Watch Queue Queue As with Grenzo, this is not a fully optimized list. (Hello. Both sides help your combo, and you get better high tide turns with ~30 islands on a lower budget. (Though as you point out, you do lose out on Past in Flames, which is kind of big). Well, the main problem storm has is the raw time it takes to resolve the winning turn. Last Modified On: 8/31/2019 Market Median Low $54.27 $61.34 $24.73 Buy This Deck! Toggle navigation. Full disclosure, I’m generally against fishing for information in a tournament setting, but this isn’t quite the same. Nin, the Pain Artist is probably the closest to Jori En, and it would not be unreasonable to run her. Apologize for taking time, if you have to think for more than a few seconds. Gain incremental value while casting a ton of cheap artifacts to ping opponents down or storm off! Hi Folks, Sorry for the hiatus of content while we’ve been sorting out our lives and figuring out how to best deliver some hot EDH … Post YCS Secaucus and NAWCQ Experience. These cards are primarily useful as setup, fuel, or payoff for the storm turn. If you enjoyed this, consider checking out my youtube channel 1600 Horsepower or my website here. just a normal jori en deck, using spells and what not. The ability will resolve before the second spell resolves. We need a commander that can recoup some of the advantage lost from spending our cards defensively. Even better, she’s an outlet for infinite mana, and can act as spot removal in an emergency. It doesn’t matter if the first spell you cast that turn has resolved, was countered, or is still on the stack. Unfortunately for the latter, they cost six mana, and unfortunately for Mizzix, he is very much a known quantity. My question is, what could I do as a win condition with her? The other key points Jori hits: she is not necessary for the storm plan, so casting her is usually not seen as threating; and she has relatively low mana cost, allowing her to be played while players are still developing. Edit. If the guy across from you shows you General Tazri, allow yourself to show some natural fear that this may be Food Chain Tazri, and you’ll be dead on turn 4 (you won’t be, most likely, we have a lot of interaction to prevent that sort of thing). At worst, she’s a slow Braingeyser, but when you have other creatures in play, she is repeatable instant speed card draw. You’re also limited by being mono blue, which helps stop degeneracy. Jori-En was left a little behind in terms of attention. She’ll generally draw you a card per round, sometimes two, and occassionally none. The win conditions already listed above are omitted. Jori En EDH Commander / EDH Combo Competitive Control Infinite Combo UR (Izzet) Vasseer. The GMGC – EDH/Commander Gameplay | Quarantine Series Episode 1 – Golos vs Gishath vs Syr Gwyn vs Jori En. 0.01 TIX. This site © 2020 TappedOut.net, LLC First thing first: High Tide is a good card, and to use it we need islands. The Bloodhall Season 6 - Jori En, Ruin Diver Commander / EDH Primer UR (Izzet) Stax is probably going to interfere with our storm plan, and board wipes can be dead or ineffectual against a variety of types of decks, so we will have to rely on traditional countermagic and spot removal as well. Average Type Distribution. Jori En is a female merfolk from Bala Ged on Zendikar. This is a constant in all formats in which storm is … This annoying message will go away once you do. This can actually be enough to tip the scales to where controlling three players is possible. Oona, Queen of the Fae is an infinite mana outlet in the command zone. (98 cards, 95 distinct) - Imperial Seal, Gaea's Cradle, Mox Diamond, Bayou, Badlands, Taiga, Savannah by MagicalHacker, The Bloodhall Season 26 - Pharika, God of Affli... For the pilot. Second, we intend to be relying on not “whiffing” during the storm turn, which can be caused by drawing too many lands with wheel effects and other card draw. ( Log Out /  In short, the information you get on turn 0 is the first clue as to what you should be doing. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. I know, crazy, right? Jori En, Ruin Diver | The Commander's Quarters by The Commander's Quarters. ( Log Out /  The interesting thing here is that as you try to control the table, she’ll often be drawing cards in proportion to the number of threats that must be dealt with. 463 decks (0.108%) Rank #261. You may get a response along the lines of “Don’t worry, I don’t play combos,” or “Haha yeah,” and you can feel free to treat them appropriately. Copied to clipboard. This video is unavailable. If this isn’t enough information, you’ll have to move on to the next indicators. Discord Server | There are players who want to play against the best you have, and others that would rather the game go long and everyone get a chance to play. Magic The Gathering, magic cards, singles, decks, card lists, deck ideas, wizard of the coast, all of the cards you need at great prices are available at Cardkingdom. Further, Mizzix is highly build-around, so if he is not in play, the deck becomes significantly worse. ( Log Out /  Make mistakes. Every time you interact on an opponent’s turn, you have an opportunity to spin it into card advantage. The theory behind this is pretty simple. Feeds | Upvote 0. Copy. I don’t at all mean to say that this deck is super competitive and has to shoot itself in the foot in order to not utterly overpower your local scrubs, because that is absolutely not the case. This is just not what we’re looking for. Storm is fun. Jori isn’t exactly conventional, so let’s compare her briefly to the other options. While there is a decent amount of interaction in Jeleva Storm and similar, most lists aren’t designed for the long game, and don’t have a comfortable plan outside of storming off. The most important thing to remember here is your time. Another commander which is unassuming but lets you pull off the combo-control plan is Rashmi, since she effectively makes your interaction cantrip. 0.01 TIX. Why does this matter? They can be incredibly intimidating, and immediately become the threat at the table. Format: Freeform. Brewsday Archive. Obvious additions given a higher budget include Volcanic Island, fetches, Mana Crypt, and Wheel of Fortune (though Reforge the Soul does have interesting synergy with Jori En). MTG Muddstah 40,210 views. ... Jori En, Ruin Diver. Jori En was just released and she looks wonderful, I plan to make my first real EDH deck with her. I dig through a lot of my deck with her ability, so combo would seem like the right choice. The countermagic suite includes cards that fulfill at least one of the following requirements: Keeping roughly to these guidelines lets us split the difference between storm and control. View All Versions Rarity, #: R, 155 Card Type: Legendary Creature — Merfolk Wizard P / T: 2 / 3 Description: Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, draw a card. Against non-competitive tables, racing to the kill is like trying to win a figure skating contest by speed skating. EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander There has to be a lot of this, to smooth the divide between combo and control. Jori En, Ruin Diver. Aaaand… That’s it. If you’re unfamiliar with “1 TIX Commander”, the idea is simple: build a complete Commander deck (not including basic lands) for a total of 1 ticket on Magic: the Gathering Online. Support us directly, get rewards, and join The Commander’s Quarter’s community on our Patreon page: With the list established, it’s time to talk about what I consider the most important part of playing this deck: figuring out what your opponents want. Cost reducers lead to turns similar to the modern Past in Flames deck, and turn certain spells mana-positive. by MagicalHacker, The Bloodhall Season 27 - Sedris, the Traitor King While all-in Grixis Storm decks may be the most viable way to win with a high storm count, they have some inherent problems for anyone playing outside a hardcore competitive metagame. EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander. Still others are indicators that your opponents aren’t trying to optimize to win, like Norin, Kynaios and Tiro, or Kangee (sorry man). Just not play storm unless your meta is purely competitive? Mana efficient (Mental Misstep, Mindbreak Trap, Swan Song, Rewind, Counterspell), Highly flexible (Disallow, Cryptic Command, Unsubstantiate, Muddle the Mixture), Creatures (Lightning Bolt, Pongify, Snap), Artifacts (Dack Fayden, Shattering Pulse, Vandalblast), Mass Removal (All is Dust, Blasphemous Act, Cyclonic Rift), Cantrips (Brainstorm, Opt, Peek, Quicken, Ponder, Preordain, Gitaxian Probe, Impulse), Tutors (Mystical Tutor, Gamble, Merchant Scroll, Personal Tutor, Whir of Invention), Larger Draw (Fact or Fiction, Dig Through Time, Windfall, Reforge the Soul, Recurring Insight), Mana Production (High Tide, Mana Vault, Frantic Search, Turnabout), Payoff (Grapeshot, Mind’s Desire, Past in Flames), Cost Reducers (Baral, Chief of Compliance, Goblin Electromancer, Helm of Awakening, Sapphire Medallion), Mana Rocks (Wayfarer’s Bauble, Thran Dynamo, Sol Ring, Mind Stone, Izzet Signet, Gilded Lotus, Fellwar Stone, Chrome Mox). Updated Aug 04, 2020 by cks2003 using our MTG Deck Builder. Storm is fun. This is a huge deal, because there are absolutely tables at which an early storm kill is the least fun thing to have happen.
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